You may not have heard it –
you may have been busy greasing the cat’s boil or doing some equally useful
work - but Monday morning last callers
to The Stephen Nolan Show on BBC Radio Ulster/Raidio Uladh were
discussing free will. “Eh?” you say. “A free will phone-in on a Monday morning?
Bit airy-fairy, that”.
Well no, not really. You
see the issue under discussion was whether there should be a ban on smoking in
cars. Nobody was saying it’s good to blow smoke into the lungs of your children
in a confined space; the debate was whether not doing so should be left to our
own free will or whether there ought to be a law.
Big issue, that, because it
boils down to whether we believe doing the right thing is best left to each
individual or whether the state through its laws should pressure us into doing
the right thing.
What do I think? Well, let
me first point you to two public issues that have undergone a total
transformation in my lifetime.
The first is smoking. When
I was young, everybody smoked. The school I went to even had a special shed for
us Big Boys (15 and older) where
we allowed to stand and suck on our Gallahers Blues or Sweet Aftons. As young
adults, when you went into somebody’s house, you automatically reached for the
fags, passed them round. We smoked in cars, in houses, writing, playing poker,
on the toilet, in the pub. If we could have smoked while asleep we would
have. We knew it was damaging us
(we even called them ‘coffin nails’). And now? All changed. Now the few who
still smoke stand huddled outside buildings, indulging their vice and looking miserable.
The other big change has
been in drink-driving. When I first got my licence, the guy who could lower six
or eight pints and then drive home was not exactly a hero but certainly no
villain. He was a laugh, that’s what he was. A rogue. Wobbling all over the
place, God, did you see him! The
notion of phoning for a taxi just because you were half-cut would have sounded
like the actions of a madman. All changed. Now, anybody who drinks and drives is seen as a public menace
who deserves the stiffest of sentences and his licence revoked.
In both cases, the public
opinion turnaround didn’t happen because it was left to people’s free will –
laws were passed that forebade smoking
in pubs and restaurants, other laws were passed which said that if you drank and
got caught behind a car wheel, you’d be a sorry boy or girl. The laws acted as a kind of
scaffolding that made public opinion turnaround possible.
And in politics? Well the
Alliance Party, bless their little cotton socks, have historically urged us all
to be nicer to one another – Trevor Ringland’s “one small step” philosophy
would eventually lead us away from separateness and sectarianism. Nice idea.
But it took the muscle of the McBride principles to persuade employers to end
discrimination, it took laws against incitement to religious hatred to damp
down the uberbigots, it took a
minimum-wage law to make sure employers paid their workers half-properly. Once the law’s in place, of course,
people begin to see that decent pay and non-sectarianism and not poisoning
ourselves make sense. Social responsibility grows after legal protection has
allowed it to emerge.
Otherwise there are always
excuses, aren’t there? Left to our own devices, the drag is downward – we opt
for the easy, the self-pleasuring option. Only after we’ve had a law passed
that protects us from our worst impulses does the public mood change.
But here’s the bad new,
politically speaking. The Good Friday Agreement says that there’ll be a
constitutional change here only when a majority in the north want it. In the
end, the Agreement leaves an end to partition and its attendant absurdities to
a change of political thinking by a sizeable number of unonists.
Do you see signs that, thirteen
years after the Agreement, unionists have started to stop puffing the political
fag in confined spaces or driving the political car while legless? Can’t say
I’ve noticed it myself.
spot on jude
ReplyDeleteMy god you just get worse Jude...so correct me if I'm wrong,what you are saying is that unionists are stupid people who cannot see the sense in a united Ireland and should be forced through legislation to see sense.
ReplyDeleteJust in your analogy of the errant drink driver,idiotic behaviour and thinking until corrected by law making.
Your thinking and logic is stunningly naive and insulting.
Anon 9:31 - I'm sorry if you take insult. I believe that unionism is damaging its adherents as well as its opponents - in short all of the people of Ireland. I'm observing that there is no law/scaffolding that encourages/pressures unionists to move from their present state. I presume you'd agree with me in my second sentence and that you'd allow me my opinion in my first? When I express a view, I don't ask people to agree with it. In fact, if everyone did, I'd be seriously worried.
ReplyDeleteThe question here is lack of empathy. You would be outraged by the suggestion that republicanism damages Northern Ireland and should be discouraged through legislation. Yet it does not even seem to have occurred to you to place yourself on the other side of an argument before launching into it. In fact your allusion to unionists lacking the free will to recognise their own stupidity suggests you do not even really see them as fully human.
ReplyDeletePutting myself in your position, I suppose you will claim you are too psychologically damaged by partition to project a theory of mind.
Others might simply say you're a bigot.
I don't dispute your right to have an opinion,god we would really be in trouble if that was the case.
ReplyDeleteNo I question your blinkered and narrow minded opinion,I guess what people like yourself just dont get is the fact that we perceive ourselves as British,in your world it might be all ok if we could just dislodge those nasty Brits and then these silly prods would finally see how much better they would be in a United Ireland.
The problem is I'm the British presence in Ireland not Owen Patterson with his clipped home counties accent.
You talk of no leverage to dislodge unionists,but why should there be...sinn fein can put their arguments and unionists can either agree or not...thats democracy I believe
While I'm at it why would unionists want to join a bankrupt nation...go on sell me the benefits Jude
Anon 11:18 - Let's get the last point out of the way first: name-calling is pointless, silly and discourteous. Please, no more.
ReplyDeleteNow. I would not be outraged by the suggestion that republicanism damages NI. I know lots of people think it does and they're entitled to their opinion and to express it. I did not suggest unionism should be discouraged through legislation: I observed that the unionists (and nationalists/republicans) were left as individuals to decide re constitutional position. I think they should be encouraged to look at it and question it, and that there's nothing in legislation which requires them to do so. That's all. You really mustn't put words in my mouth.
You're missing the point if you think I was calling unionists stupid - in fact you're dreaming up something I didn't say or imply. Because I disagree with unionists doesn't mean I think they're stupid. Do you think nationalists/republicans are stupid because they disagree with you? I hope not.
I don't know what 'a theory of mind' means so you're right, I wouldn't know how to project it. But I'm perfectly capable of empathy and I do exercise it, in politics and in life. That doesn't mean I agree. Empathy: one word. Agree: another word. Simple, really.
I welcome your thoughts, Anon, but I will insist on no more name-calling.
Anon 11:47 - I'd refer you to what I said to 11:18 re name-calling. Now, as to your points. I do indeed believe unionists see themselves as British and I think you know I do. I do believe that Irish people should be grown-up and left to run their own affairs, rather than have the next door neighbour do so - whether that's Westminster or Brussels - and I don't think of unionists as 'silly prods' at all - see previous comment to your fellow-Anon - but yes, I think the unionist people would ultimately be better off contributing to the running of Ireland. I don't see you as a problem at all but I do see Owen Paterson, as representative of HM Government, coming over here and overseeing our affairs, as regrettable, let's say. I suspect again that you are aware of that distinction between unionists and British ministers, etc. 'No leverage' - etc - yes, you're right, there isn't; and since I'd like to see unionists move to fresh thinking on the subject of governing themselves, I'd welcome leverage (but no, I haven't worked out what that might be - wish I had). But politics works through leverage, as you probably know, both at domestic and international level. As to the advantages of 'joining a bankrupt nation' - I don't see a united Ireland as the six counties in the north attaching themselves to the 26 in the south, allowing themselves to be somehow subsumed, consigned to a similar fate. God forbid. But I think that working together, the Irish people north and south could produce something a lot lot better than presently exist on either side of the border. When you mix colours you get a new colour.
ReplyDeleteI really must discipline myself or I'll get nothing else done beyond responding to commenters such as yourself, Anon; but again, I genuinely welcome debate and challenge, as long as that's done in a reasonably courteous and friendly way.
U would be outraged by the suggestion that republicanism damages Northern Ireland and should be discouraged through legislation.
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