tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post8005265613486201172..comments2023-11-03T08:40:03.424+00:00Comments on Jude Collins: See the Anglo-Irish Treaty online - and weep?Jude Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-85809216500787102462011-12-12T17:25:02.768+00:002011-12-12T17:25:02.768+00:00We all lost.Ulster was partitioned, Ireland was pa...We all lost.Ulster was partitioned, Ireland was partitioned, the "United" Kingdom was partitioned. The Home Rule Bill was the last chance to keep a united Ulster within a united Ireland within a united Kingdom. All Ireland would have long ago had the status of Scotland today. We can also be sure that partition did as much damage to southern society as to northern, as each statelet tried to impose an ideological uniformity, and the glad diversity which is necessary for a free democracy was strangled at birth. Since the Confederaation of Kilkenny, the referendum on the Good Friday Agreement was the only opportunity for all the Irish people to confirm how they would accept to be governed; maybe not anybody's ideal, but at least with a democratic legitimacy. Can't be emphasised enough!Augustinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-10615550718365316292011-12-07T20:02:49.575+00:002011-12-07T20:02:49.575+00:00"This document was the basis for the foundati..."This document was the basis for the foundation of the northern state."<br /><br />Jude, although i could be wrong, was the north not already partitioned before the treaty was signed, Collins and Griffith hoping that the north would fall into line?<br /><br />What is your take on the whole "Northern Irishness"? Do you see yourself as Northern Irish, or do you leave the northern bit out? Would this last bit be the basis for another article perhaps?Harry_Heinzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05094175836705745203noreply@blogger.com