tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post6312782631583532168..comments2023-11-03T08:40:03.424+00:00Comments on Jude Collins: Thatcher and Boston: how art shapes lifeJude Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-39935205218778952132013-04-17T19:18:35.333+01:002013-04-17T19:18:35.333+01:00Gio - 'it was nothing to do with them' - t...Gio - 'it was nothing to do with them' - true, except that days earlier they had faced and dealt with another piece of sensitive material. Seemed reasonable to hypothesise (or is it hypothesize?) about how they might have dealt with 'Four Lions'... Of course there was a case for pulling it, given that the London Marathon people seem to think lightning could strike twice in similar circs. Anyway, it's made me want to see it sometime. I don't think it's human nature to be more callous about Middle East deaths. I think it's human media. <br />Anon 17:23 - thank you for describing me as classic - and you haven't even seen my profile against a setting sun...But we're not 'back' in any regressive sense. I repeat: except you're a pacifist, you're bound (except you're very very stupid) to see a difference between different acts of violence. I find myself blushing almost for pointing out something so obvious.Jude Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-21195636297402866032013-04-17T19:00:04.738+01:002013-04-17T19:00:04.738+01:00Jude
I guess all you can do is try.
I agree the Be...Jude<br />I guess all you can do is try.<br />I agree the Beeb would probably have pulled it too. My point was that you used the story to have a little jab at them, even though it was nothing to do with them.<br />Do you not think there is an argument for showing some sensitivity given the parallels between the story and what happened? And I'm sure channel 4 will wheel it out at a later date.<br />Would you expect a broadcaster to have shown 'Towering Inferno' immediately after 9/11?<br />The point about how we react to deaths in western English speaking cultures differently to those of,say, the Middle East, is a good one. Human nature I suppose. <br />giordanobrunonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-85725301387682170412013-04-17T17:23:50.215+01:002013-04-17T17:23:50.215+01:00So we're back to the classic Jude argument tha...So we're back to the classic Jude argument that some violent acts are apparently more acceptable than others.If its in the name of "Irish Republican "struggle ,its alright then!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-63285212518763491812013-04-17T16:38:15.665+01:002013-04-17T16:38:15.665+01:00Giob - I'm sorry I've disappointed you (ag...Giob - I'm sorry I've disappointed you (again). I shall try to improve myself as best I can. And if it's a good movie, shouldn't it be shown? And given that the Beeb censored a daft little song, what do you think they'd have done - shown the movie?<br />Anon 13:18 and Pete - I can see the parallel you're drawing and it's a fair one. At the same time, I think except you're a pacifist, lumping all violent acts together is a bit lacking in discrimination. I'm sure Gerry Adams can answer for himself (why not tweet him or Martin McGuinness?), but I suspect he'd respond by pointing out that the situation of British soldiers in Ireland is a bit different from civilian Americans in America. But maybe Gio would see that as weak, as I'm hypothesising again...Sorry, Gio. I'm really trying to be good.<br />Jude Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-71573055404349092662013-04-17T13:18:22.183+01:002013-04-17T13:18:22.183+01:00Fair point from Pete (above) about the hypocrisy o...Fair point from Pete (above) about the hypocrisy of Gerry Adams condemning the Boston terrorism and being part of the movement that was complicit in the Lisburn bombing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-4681440466085348312013-04-17T13:01:51.060+01:002013-04-17T13:01:51.060+01:00Jude
You are having a dig at the Beeb for somethin...Jude<br />You are having a dig at the Beeb for something you think they would have done? Weak stuff.<br />As for the actuality, I don't see how you could fault any broadcaster for showing sensitivity, not censorship.<br />It is a good movie, by the way, showing how ridiculous are the ideas of fanatics who believe their cause entitles them to kill the innocent.giordanobrunonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-84949836801106256192013-04-17T09:37:48.653+01:002013-04-17T09:37:48.653+01:00You've played the harbinger, Jude: Four Lions ...You've played the harbinger, Jude: Four Lions has indeed been pulled, according to the BBC. Brilliant film, two thumbs up from this parish. <br /><br />(*Spoiler alert*)<br /><br />But although the four lead characters do fail spectacularly in the tale, you can appreciate it's maybe a little close to the bone this week. <br /><br />As for taking the Boston tragedy in context with the attacks in the Mid and Far East on the same day... unfortunately, they're there, and Boston's "here', and we know that makes all the difference regarding our level of interest. Self-examination on this issue will always find the English-speaking world wanting.<br /><br />Tangentially, it's not hard to also appreciate the irony of the TD for Louth expressing his sympathy for the Boston victims. Sympathies that deserved to be expressed. but folks from Lisburn might have something to say about the incongruity therein.Petehttp://www.petehuey.comnoreply@blogger.com