tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post5390879545140554892..comments2023-11-03T08:40:03.424+00:00Comments on Jude Collins: A tale of two priestsJude Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-87370041696487415282013-07-22T22:19:42.668+01:002013-07-22T22:19:42.668+01:00Are Frs O'Neill and Bartlett any more represen...Are Frs O'Neill and Bartlett any more representative of the Catholic Church than Frs Wilson and Mc Veigh?Presumably the majority of priests just get on with the job for which they were ordained.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-29942141858532829562013-07-20T22:16:21.530+01:002013-07-20T22:16:21.530+01:00Jude;You must lead a very sheltered life if you cl...Jude;You must lead a very sheltered life if you claim not to know the views of Fr Des Wilson on various topics!Does he not(like yourself) write a column for the Andersonstown News ?Maybe you don't read his columns or possibly you are just being just a little coy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-49468860131554083382013-07-20T21:38:32.160+01:002013-07-20T21:38:32.160+01:00Jude,if you class yourself as an agreeable person ...Jude,if you class yourself as an agreeable person presently,you must have been a fearsome disagreeable individual back then(I'm guessing 70s/80s).Apart from walking out of the Church,did you make any representations to the ecclesiastical authorities?I presume that many people back then did their own thing politically and hardly accepted meekly the perceived dictates of the Catholic Church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-23223642002923722992013-07-20T13:30:57.076+01:002013-07-20T13:30:57.076+01:00Gio - Don't knock it if you haven't tried ...Gio - Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. I have this gut feeling that you'd enjoy the goat thing...Jude Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-20577442450159438002013-07-20T13:12:32.858+01:002013-07-20T13:12:32.858+01:00Jude
I have no intention of wasting my Sunday list...Jude<br />I have no intention of wasting my Sunday listening to mumbojumbo men and their ( non-scriptural) rituals, of any creed.<br />I feel it is safe to say that it is not uncommon for religious leaders to believe that God talks to them.("the Pope revealed that he is stepping aside because God told him to" 24/2/2013.)<br />And equally common for churches to tell us what to do. How else would we know not to wear condoms or work on the Sabbath or lie down with a goat etc.giordanobrunonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-49184858754501857172013-07-20T11:40:12.576+01:002013-07-20T11:40:12.576+01:00Gio - I already said I was young adn contrary at t...Gio - I already said I was young adn contrary at the time, as distinct from agreeable, nay meek chap you're currently addressing. But I think you might need to read up a bit on Catholic theology if you think that priests habitually tell people what to do and claim that God talks to them. You should attend a Sunday Mass some time and test whether your thesis stands up. Jude Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-51872017163218017022013-07-20T11:37:11.053+01:002013-07-20T11:37:11.053+01:00Anon 21:17 - Good question (I always like to see ...Anon 21:17 - Good question (I always like to see people make progress on the thinking front...) Any statement about the future by definition will have a degree of uncertainty but we can use reasonable judgement to predict. If a worm is cut in half, the two halves may wriggle but they're not going to operate as well as they would if they were one worm.Just as a finger can do certain things but five fingers in a fist can do much more. And then there are such things as trade unions, the EU, etc. In fact I notice on one of the Orange protest banners the statement 'United we stand, divided we fall'. Can't get better advice than that...Jude Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-88567876502411519752013-07-20T10:26:20.199+01:002013-07-20T10:26:20.199+01:00Jude
I don't know why you would walk out of ch...Jude<br />I don't know why you would walk out of church. Your very presence there at all suggests you are willing to be told what to do by a man who thinks God talks to him.<br />Isn't that part of the deal?giordanobrunonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-60161955196851404512013-07-19T21:17:05.886+01:002013-07-19T21:17:05.886+01:00 It means a new entity, a state that’s capable of ... It means a new entity, a state that’s capable of achieving things at present impossible in either state<br /><br />How do you know that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-82037101329870724142013-07-19T19:08:16.340+01:002013-07-19T19:08:16.340+01:00Anon 10:40 - I'm not familiar with the stated ...Anon 10:40 - I'm not familiar with the stated position of either man but I'm sure if you want to find out their thinking you can contact them - Joe I think is on Twitter and Belfast Media Group should be able to put you in touch with Des. Always best to cut out the middle man, don't you think?Jude Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-40754877204799437482013-07-19T10:40:09.124+01:002013-07-19T10:40:09.124+01:00If William Crawley or his producer is reading your...If William Crawley or his producer is reading your blog,it sounds like a good topic for Sunday Sequence with both yourself and one of the priests quoted.Can we presume that you would admire priests such as Fr Joe Mc Veigh or Fr Des Wilson who never quite seemed to be able to condemn the excesses of the I R A during the Troubles?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com