tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post5089164825719086335..comments2023-11-03T08:40:03.424+00:00Comments on Jude Collins: Why Rory plays golf (and who for)Jude Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-16066200401103194572013-01-23T19:49:23.688+00:002013-01-23T19:49:23.688+00:00The lad has had a protestant upbringing in one of ...The lad has had a protestant upbringing in one of the most protestant parts of N.I., or am I assuming wrong? If you have a McScotsman surname, I'd presume he'd play for Britain or Scotland, not for an all-Ireland team. And who could blame him, most who react on your homepage are all about identity.<br />But then again, I'm not from the Isles, so how could I know. In any case his lassie is a catholic from Denmark with Polish parents. The lad has a right to an identity just like the rest of us.<br /><br />Continental.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-20663560854904799562013-01-14T09:23:25.756+00:002013-01-14T09:23:25.756+00:00Money comes with the profession Jude. I'm sure...Money comes with the profession Jude. I'm sure a good Marxist would have decided at the age three that that life of money and afluence and wealth was not for him and donned the geannsai for St Paul's instead.Mickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09172035156183790535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-78831245429712306912013-01-14T09:17:34.401+00:002013-01-14T09:17:34.401+00:00It's AdWords. It automatically assumes that if...It's AdWords. It automatically assumes that if we're talking about golf: a, we know what we're talking about; and b, we'll be motivated to buy some gear. We fail on both counts.Mickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09172035156183790535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-1949138162096025022013-01-14T08:49:25.900+00:002013-01-14T08:49:25.900+00:00I "played "golf" for over 20 years ...I "played "golf" for over 20 years and might add I was not bad at it (as well as football,tennis and GAA which to me is the most exciting)but you are right going for a nice country walk is much more relaxing and rewarding especially with a dog and camera in hand,I keep one club now in the boot in case I get stopped at a loyalist road block,;).Most of the Golfing Country Clubs are full of elitist, snob bastards who keep the fees high to distance themselves from the plebs and I wouldn't belong to any that would have the likes of myself as a member anyway(quote from Marx,the one that smoked the cigar not Karl).Anyway Rory's non-stance is understandable considering he comes from the leafy burbs of Holywood somewhat distanced from the tribe that he culturally is part of but what loss you might say,in today's world of greed and gross disparities in wealth and advantage is it any wonder that the "man mind thyself " attitude prevails.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-72185254138370622962013-01-13T16:15:15.402+00:002013-01-13T16:15:15.402+00:00Fair enough.Fair enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-51471160240889819332013-01-13T14:13:45.954+00:002013-01-13T14:13:45.954+00:00Jude, for someone who hates golf so much why the g...Jude, for someone who hates golf so much why the golfing game advert on you blog replies page?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-80808078096005768712013-01-13T12:36:49.552+00:002013-01-13T12:36:49.552+00:00Anon 22:53 - I'm sure your da's a lovely ...Anon 22:53 - I'm sure your da's a lovely man, then. And for selfish reasons, I'm anti-ageism.<br />I'm struggling to see what points we differ on. I concede McIlroy is very good at golf, gets paid obscenely large amounts for so doing, I'd take the money too, I don't care who he declares for - hardly a cigarette-paper-worth of difference there between us. I think if you check, I may rant but it's not by any means all negative. I have one central point: Rory's career is first and foremost and last and rear-endmost about how to make his golf maximise his bank balance. I don't blame him but I'm astonished people find it hard to acknowledge that.Jude Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-89863997515769728072013-01-12T22:53:58.717+00:002013-01-12T22:53:58.717+00:00Jude, I've also been reading your opinion piec...Jude, I've also been reading your opinion pieces for a long time(and your book!), and find myself agreeing with you a lot and find your blogs very articulate - but truthfully, I felt this one was basically just a negative rant.<br /><br />I should say I'm no golfer (don't have the patience), I tend to prefer sports were ignorance is more appreciated. To be honest you remind me of the type of negative rant my da goes on sometimes, he's of your peer group and could be broadly considered a "grumpy old man" these days... Just saying! :)<br /><br />I think Rory is a nice guy and as a culchie northern republican, I can say him and the other Irish golfers have got me into watching golf, no mean feat! I think they all give good accounts of themselves worldwide and as far as the money goes, good luck to Rory, far too many begrudgers round these parts.<br /><br />As for which flag he plays under, like most Nat/Republicans I've spoken to, I'd prefer if he played for Ireland, but I am tolerant and have empathy with his upbringing in Hollywood, if he feels closer to Britain, so be it. He won't incur my wrath.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-44461077786550188212013-01-12T18:52:29.261+00:002013-01-12T18:52:29.261+00:00Jude
Thanks for the reply.
As usual, when you take...Jude<br />Thanks for the reply.<br />As usual, when you take the time to come below the line, you seem much more reasonable.<br />I can't disagree with much of your reply. <br />I would say that although he clearly wants to make money it does not seem to me to be his driving motivation, though I could be wrong.<br />As for golf,it is not really more dumb than any other game, but I refuse to play it on account of what you rightly describe as the 'classist undertones'giordanobrunonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-57657503987909344632013-01-12T13:51:58.926+00:002013-01-12T13:51:58.926+00:00Oh - I should add - I don't take back a word I...Oh - I should add - I don't take back a word I said about golf. It's a dumb,boring game with classist undertones.Jude Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-1583380238449616042013-01-12T13:49:29.122+00:002013-01-12T13:49:29.122+00:00Ok - I've a few mins in hand so let me respond...Ok - I've a few mins in hand so let me respond to Anon 13:12 and giordanobruno.<br /><br />1. I have no antagonism, let alone hatred of Rory McIlroy. I wish I were as rich as he is but then I can't play golf as he does. Good luck to him - in his shoes I'd take the money happily.<br />2. My point is that his choice is his to make re what flag he plays golf under (incidentally it is possible to compete in the Olympics under the Olympic flag rather than that of any nation). I really don't care what he chooses. Honest. He should be left totally free and not demonised no matter what choice he makes - unlike some northern footballers who opted to play for the RoI.<br />3. I don't understand why the political thinking of someone who's very good at golf should be seen as significant, any more than I'd consult Wayne Rooney or David Beckham if I was thinking of buying a new car. His area of expertise is elsewhere. It don't make sense.<br />4. Finally, young McIlroy is a money-machine - he's being paid and will be paid vast sums if he plays his cards as well as his golf right. There is no way in the world that he's going to allow the flag thing or national identification get in the way of that continuing - and his handlers will certainly have eyes only for the financial horizon. My guess is that this sort of stuff is given air time and print space to keep Rory's name in the headlines, so people beyond the golfing fraternity will be reminded of his existence and so his endorsement of various products will yield better results. To believe otherwise, I think, is to be very naive. Or maybe it's a kind of unisex maternalism that wants to protect this poor little rich boy.Jude Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-30619673580355891572013-01-12T13:28:30.256+00:002013-01-12T13:28:30.256+00:00Jude
You really have a thing about Rory it seems.
...Jude<br />You really have a thing about Rory it seems.<br />Do you despise all wealthy sportsmen (or women) equally or is it just British ones?<br />Or is it just Irishmen who have betrayed their people by saying they feel British?giordanobrunonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-3398150565754859962013-01-12T13:12:13.248+00:002013-01-12T13:12:13.248+00:00Very very disappointed in this Jude. Been a long ...Very very disappointed in this Jude. Been a long time follower of your blog, and was generally in agreement with most of your views.<br /><br />But this, it seems to me just like a hate filled article. I'll not be let down with Rory's decision, I am more let down by your naked hate for the man and sport.<br /><br />CiarĂ¡n TAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com