tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post4621723642996142486..comments2023-11-03T08:40:03.424+00:00Comments on Jude Collins: Five things we know about the Shankill ButchersJude Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-72255464974108022632013-12-03T20:44:52.696+00:002013-12-03T20:44:52.696+00:00DREAM ON MATE YOU SQUADDIES KILLED CHILDREN ON OU...DREAM ON MATE YOU SQUADDIES KILLED CHILDREN ON OUR STREETSAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13319900544681071763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-81324583226813369162013-10-27T13:10:52.395+00:002013-10-27T13:10:52.395+00:00patsy benstead lived a few streets away from me it...patsy benstead lived a few streets away from me it was awful for his family to have that much hate in you to do that must be a lot to live with we should all learn a lesson <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-88089954310579772042013-10-17T02:53:55.527+01:002013-10-17T02:53:55.527+01:00the butchers were a government made killing squad ...the butchers were a government made killing squad that got out of handAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-62259327518273704072013-10-13T17:38:32.832+01:002013-10-13T17:38:32.832+01:00is there any chance you maybe one of those type of...is there any chance you maybe one of those type of people who take great pride in bringing to the fore protestant wrong doings and yet forget the butcher of the shankill innocents the la mon bombing .the kingsmill slaughter.the list is endless to those with selective memoryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-15438738421880094482013-09-12T22:51:17.732+01:002013-09-12T22:51:17.732+01:00The Shankill Butchers were allowed by the British ...The Shankill Butchers were allowed by the British state to do what they did. I lived in North Belfast from the start of their activity, (although their counterparts in the UVF/UDA were also carrying out similar gruesome killings as frequently, from much earlier and on a much wider geographical base, not that much differently). How could a black taxi with three or four killers tour around a few square miles of North Belfast in the dead of night on a regular basis, for years, without being intercepted! This is utterly ridiculous. The streets were deserted by 11pm, very very little vehicles on the Rd and yet they were allowed to do what they did with impunity. This was at at time in the 1970s, when the numbers of British Army,RUC, UDR were at their height, (especially in Belfast), numbering tens of thousands. There were numerous police barracks all around north Belfast and army bases, yet these psychopaths were quite easily driving around for YEARS, on their killing sprees. If a car full of armed republicans was driving around under similar circumstances in North Belfast, how many days or weeks would they have lasted before being taken out in a hail of bullets by British army/police? From one who lived there and knew of some of the victims and felt the fear of those times, I ask this question to anyone brave enough to answer it, including the RUC detective Jimmy Nesbitt. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-53285930910756577612013-07-01T20:59:47.580+01:002013-07-01T20:59:47.580+01:00what programewhat programeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-59766501215922519122013-05-08T09:44:13.450+01:002013-05-08T09:44:13.450+01:00I knew some of the boys & some of the stuff wr...I knew some of the boys & some of the stuff written or said down the years has been total nonsense, ruthless yes, killers yes , out of control sometimes yes, but people need to put themselves in the time of their actions, catholic murder gangs were roaming around killing Protestants in the same way and the so called Butchers were a copycat of RC Murder gangs, MD even mentioned this in his book about the Protestant lad found on templemore avenue with his Balls in his mouth.<br /><br />The truth is Murder is Murder is Murder & its all wrong but how that Murder especially Political Murder evolved in Irish History is there from all to see, Pikes, Burning, Drowning, Bombs, Guns, Knives and whatever, it doesnt matter Murder is wrong but it happened and is still happening today, all the Shankill Butchers will tell you their actions were reactionary, they acted through frustraition that the IRA were getting away with their Murders of their community,their policy was if you kill one of our people we will kill one of yours, after bloody friday & bombings on the Shankill such as the Four Step Bar & the Bayardo Bar their violence went into overdrive they felt that they were defending or even fighting what was attacking them & thats the truth, again yes Murder is wrong, but their doesnt ever seem to be an Objective view from anyone who really knew the boys, argue you with that if you want but thats the truth.<br /><br />CC Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-31698969639426223042012-07-05T22:14:49.436+01:002012-07-05T22:14:49.436+01:00very true,and i think they would have.very true,and i think they would have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-65589485478568561012012-07-03T03:31:55.362+01:002012-07-03T03:31:55.362+01:00this is the 2 of july and im not being funny,i hav...this is the 2 of july and im not being funny,i have tryed to go on google,for the past hour,with no result.<br />I did not no that you ar a priest lol.<br />And im talking about looking up,for your book.<br />I wanted to e mail you,with my thoughts.<br />But if i ever get my e mail,to you,i no i will get the answers,im looking for.<br />just reading quick,When you come to th end of your days,what youll regret is not what youve done,but what you dint do.And that is true,i would love to talk to you more.<br />And hope i can fix the google out.<br />All my love to you,and you no im not a Catholic.<br />And hope you will still give me hope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-60628874742460580582012-07-03T01:26:21.084+01:002012-07-03T01:26:21.084+01:00This is well out of date,i have posted a comment o...This is well out of date,i have posted a comment on 29 june 2012.<br />All i can say is i wish you well and your a brave man.<br />All the best,i wish you could e mail me bk,i would be intresting to here from you.<br />May be sum other topic x<br />I will check if you have a book out,tell then.<br />i will close with you ar a man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-23707814960647889532012-06-29T22:16:19.943+01:002012-06-29T22:16:19.943+01:00i have bean checking and watch a move resurrection...i have bean checking and watch a move resurrection man,and to my mind one has got away.<br />i feel for the women that her father was one of there victims,and agree with her.<br />they could have got them,quicker if they wanted.<br />i watched her on youtube,and have checked up on loads of things related to this.<br />and one wonders how they all got away with things.<br />Inside information,and the ones still going untouched.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-4372249636349272952012-05-11T16:18:04.166+01:002012-05-11T16:18:04.166+01:00After I originally commented I seem to have clicke...After I originally commented I seem to have clicked on the -Notify me when <br />new comments are added- checkbox and now each time a <br />comment is added I get four emails with the exact same comment.<br /><br />Perhaps there is an easy method you are able to remove me from that service?<br />Appreciate it!<br /><i>My site</i> :: <b><a href="http://www.verticalearth.com/veforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=836969" rel="nofollow">civilian mre</a></b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-59901096248562853882012-01-07T23:50:48.898+00:002012-01-07T23:50:48.898+00:00I wouldn't compare the butcher gang with the i...I wouldn't compare the butcher gang with the ira, although the ira commited thousands more murders. The gang were murderers pure and simple and it didn't always matter who their victims were, they killed at least 9 protestants as well.<br />The IRA were more clinical about their murders, they attacked "British targets" which is actually a euphemism for anybody they felt like attacking and most of these "attacks" resulted in Deaths or as the law abiding people see it, MURDER. Too bad the Blair Govt never saw it the same way. As far as Murphy and bates being revered as "soldiers" turns my stomach. I for one could have destroyed any of them in less than 15 mins If either of them had had the courage to take the challenge.<br />A British SoldierCrusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01039195529019508503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-38951499350572240822011-11-09T13:05:33.098+00:002011-11-09T13:05:33.098+00:00only saw this last night having sky +ed it, the co...only saw this last night having sky +ed it, the comment about making you sick is apt as it pertains to my personal feelings. I have lived away from Belfast for a long time and as i get older my mind sometimes wanders to the thought of returning to retire. This was timely, it focussed my mind on the horror, Basher Bates funeral, the lady May from the Shankill, the lady trapped in her car while the Bates funeral went on, all reminded me that it is only a kind of peace and the horror is not that far away. My Mother came from the hammer so i used to be invested in the area but no not for me. The Shankill has a lot of decent people and always did but the bigotry seems to be soaked into the brickwork and it contaminates each succeeding generation. Finally having read the books, veiwed the film, and have an understanding of the people, i firmly believe that the RUC knew and Murphy was protected in the same way that Robin Jackson was.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-19426048780203900322011-09-01T16:45:45.383+01:002011-09-01T16:45:45.383+01:00Didnt really like the documentary that Steven Nola...Didnt really like the documentary that Steven Nolan done on the Shankill Butchers. Watching it Jimmy Nesbbit looked so Guilty to me and i think Nolan could have said alot more to him for him to tell the truth that they the RUC did turn a blind eye to these Cowardless Bastards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-39433154239133851862011-04-08T12:02:06.637+01:002011-04-08T12:02:06.637+01:00Here you go.
www.flickr.com/photos/55555977@N03/Here you go.<br /><br />www.flickr.com/photos/55555977@N03/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-39127819115712350272011-04-05T17:08:56.657+01:002011-04-05T17:08:56.657+01:00See Flickr for that pic.See Flickr for that pic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-77410840998851489592011-04-04T13:53:02.973+01:002011-04-04T13:53:02.973+01:00If a picture speaks a thousand words then the phot...If a picture speaks a thousand words then the photograph that appeared in yesterdays Sunday Life must really tell a tale. Lenny Murphy is seen standing along side John Bunter Graham a man named in a Belfast court as the Brigadier-General of the UVF.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-80841713084844136832011-04-01T17:38:45.449+01:002011-04-01T17:38:45.449+01:00Hoboroad - the apology only extends to "non-c...Hoboroad - the apology only extends to "non-combatants". My point was the neck of the IRA in condemning the notion of hierarchy of victims within a statement which establishes such a hierarchy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-75359064111148338392011-03-31T16:31:05.478+01:002011-03-31T16:31:05.478+01:00One reason for supposing that Paisley and his supp...One reason for supposing that Paisley and his supporters condone terrorism is that they have been unusually willing to conduct funerals for loyalist terrorists. William McCrea and Ivan Foster conducted funerals for Wesley Somerville and Horace Boyle, members of the notorious Portadown UVF cell led by Robin Jackson. Foster gave a graveside oration for Sinclair Johnston, a Larne UVF shot by the RUC during rioting in 1972. McCrea buried Benjamin Redfern, a UDA lifer who was crushed by a bin lorry while trying to escape from the Maze prison. Robert 'Basher' Bates, convicted of a number of vicious murders committed by Lenny Murphy's 'Shankill Butchers' gang, was murdered by a loyalist in June 1997 and was buried by Free Presbyterian minister Alan Smylie. Smylie had come to know Bates through his prison chaplaincy work in the Maze. Roy Metcalfe, a Lurgan businessman who sold army surplus clothing and loyalist memorabilia, was murdered by the IRA in October 1989, purportedly because he was active in Ulster Resistance and the UVF. He was buried by Free Presbyterian minister David Creane. Revd David McIlveen buried UDA man Raymond Elder in 1994. When Billy Wright, the UVF man who founded the breakaway Loyalist Volunteer Front was buried, the Reverend John Gray conducted a short service outside his home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-31824957253992810922011-03-31T10:12:35.747+01:002011-03-31T10:12:35.747+01:00It is therefore appropriate on the anniversary of ...It is therefore appropriate on the anniversary of this tragic event, that we address all of the deaths and injuries of non-combatants caused by us.<br /><br />We offer our sincere apologies and condolences to their families.<br /><br /><br />It looks like an apology to me it even has the words sincere apologies and condolences in it.<br />And the words caused by us means they are taking responsibility for their actions.hoboroadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01474379737795624096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-56814950581922633492011-03-31T08:39:56.555+01:002011-03-31T08:39:56.555+01:00Did the RAF bombing of Bagdad cause you any concer...Did the RAF bombing of Bagdad cause you any concern? No one went to jail for those no warning bomingsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-6563470357672285552011-03-30T23:01:29.248+01:002011-03-30T23:01:29.248+01:00The neck of the IRA - "It will not be achieve...The neck of the IRA - "It will not be achieved by creating a hierarchy of victims in which some are deemed more or less worthy than others."<br /><br />This in a statement in which they apologise only for the deaths (not murder mind you, all an accident really, nothing to see here - we planted 20 bombs but didn't mean any harm really) of "non-combatants". <br /><br />Presumably they don't apologise for kiling cleaners in police stations or census collectors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-56000158828989113472011-03-30T22:57:19.161+01:002011-03-30T22:57:19.161+01:00And the 6th thing we know about the Shankill Butch...And the 6th thing we know about the Shankill Butchers: that the big fish, i.e. Lenny Murphy's older brothers William and John, escaped, while most (but not all) of the foot-soldiers went to prison. Bill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-67978508033225552072011-03-30T15:32:13.519+01:002011-03-30T15:32:13.519+01:00You always here from Unionist politicans that the ...You always here from Unionist politicans that the IRA never apologized for Bloody Friday except they did.<br /><br />http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/events/peace/docs/ira160702.htmhoboroadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01474379737795624096noreply@blogger.com