tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post3868651036804235689..comments2023-11-03T08:40:03.424+00:00Comments on Jude Collins: Ann Travers, equations and historyJude Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-54788536780956427262013-06-01T22:27:38.533+01:002013-06-01T22:27:38.533+01:00No trick was needed. Many people slaughtered by I...No trick was needed. Many people slaughtered by IRA Fascists WERE innocent victims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-3696486256420650292013-05-31T11:03:20.665+01:002013-05-31T11:03:20.665+01:00Anonymous 05 13
Two points of correction 1--- Alth...Anonymous 05 13<br />Two points of correction 1--- Although Ann can speak for herself,I assume she would say that Sinn Fein had a choice on whether to appoint Mary Mc Ardle.They did it in quite deliberate fashion and could hardly have been unaware of the consequences. 2 --- As I understand it ,Mr Travers was a Resident Magistrate and was most unlikely to have sentenced anyone for "political" offences .His jurisdiction would have covered summary offences whereas the serious offences would have been dealt with at Crown Court level.In any case,who has the right to attempt to murder Judges?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-25397452713727003722013-05-31T10:12:56.652+01:002013-05-31T10:12:56.652+01:00state killings / collusion = ?state killings / collusion = ?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04806815129199572861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-84307250559920661272013-05-31T05:13:31.993+01:002013-05-31T05:13:31.993+01:00I think there is a danger that Ann Travers may be ...I think there is a danger that Ann Travers may be rekindling deep feelings of anquish, bitterness and unresolved trauma in thousands of people. The killers and supporters of the killers of Philomena Hanna should never work, the murderers of Mairead Farrell should never work, the murderers of Sheena Campbell should never work, the killers of Sheena Campbell should never work???? Come on Ann, lets have some logic here...sooo many people have lost sisters but are they trying to use this as a personal platform for self promotion, sympathy, cause harm to peace negotiations, destroy a nations people and their children from a future of hope and peace. Are you influenced by people who want war reignited at the cost of your children and grand children. What do you want Ann, your are doing nothing positive for any one, there is neither logic, fore thought or consideration to your personal revenge. Was Padraig Pearse wrong, was Michael Collins wrong, was Terence Mc Sweeney wrong, Was Bobby Sands wrong, Che Guvara, Nelson Mandela ??? Have you ever heard of freedom fighters Ann ? During war your father imprisoned them and was there fore a target and was one of the mechenisms of the British Imperialist establishment. If you were a target in war time, would you be in a public place with your children ? I wouldnt. I had great sympathy for you Ann as with all others who have suffered so tragically but now you are just vying to replace Jim Allister in his wickedness and craziness. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-20946393895768112412013-05-30T14:22:13.612+01:002013-05-30T14:22:13.612+01:00I think there is a danger that those who are since...I think there is a danger that those who are sincere in their defence of the Good Friday Agreement may blame Mrs Travers for facilitating this piece if discriminatory legislation. Mrs Travers is entitled to feel hurt at her sister’s murder and those who perpetrated it. <br /><br />Unfortunately with any agreed peace must come compromise and victims have had to accept the compromise which allowed ex-combatants to be involved in the political process and rehabilitation into normal life. <br /><br />Many victims do not agree with that compromise which most people accept was the price of a lasting and agreed peace. Indeed many victims belong to that significant rump of the population who were never in favour of the Good Friday Agreement.<br /><br />Mrs Traver’s case has been expediently used by the media and those who are uncomfortable about the out workings of the agreement and by Mr Allister who is an avowed opponent of the agreement. <br /><br />This discriminatory legislation targeted at republicans is going to be facilitated by the leadership of the SDLP who preside over a divided party membership many of whom harbour a deep resentment of the electoral success of Sinn Fein. Many are angry and believe that SDLP representatives have paid the ultimate price for peace in terms of dwindling electoral support in the nationalist community.<br /><br />Could this be the opportune moment for some to settle an old score perhaps? <br /><br />The principles of the Good Friday Agreement should not be held ransom to the feelings of any single victim of the troubles.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-24221932355547181582013-05-30T13:21:32.067+01:002013-05-30T13:21:32.067+01:00the greatest trick ever played by unionists was to...the greatest trick ever played by unionists was to convince people that they were the victims...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04806815129199572861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-20418373176421938962013-05-30T13:01:02.909+01:002013-05-30T13:01:02.909+01:00I would have thought that history will say
IRA a...I would have thought that history will say <br /><br />IRA and loyalist killings = murder<br /><br />Gerry Adams stated that IRA killings were murders on Miriam<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-79801873490526306182013-05-30T11:33:29.013+01:002013-05-30T11:33:29.013+01:00You may see it as a simple equation, Jude. Maths w...You may see it as a simple equation, Jude. Maths were always difficult for me but emotion makes this one much more complex than what a hundred years ago in Bishop St we called simple equations. Killings by the security forces have neither been accurately computed nor their extent admitted to by Govt. There are many on all sides who mourn grievous loss and unspeakable injustice but their voices are not as loud as Ms Travers. That does not invalidate her argument, nevertheless. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-26028066921336984632013-05-30T11:07:27.859+01:002013-05-30T11:07:27.859+01:00Perhaps you would explain how the attempted murder...Perhaps you would explain how the attempted murder of a Magistrate and the murder of his daughter on their way from Mass advanced the "noble" armed struggle that the I R A were engaged in.Sinn Fein made a deliberate choice to appoint people such as Mary Mc Ardle and Paul Kavanagh.It hardly sends out the appropriate message to those with whom Declan Kearney seems so keen to engage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-83763258242648906872013-05-30T09:55:32.074+01:002013-05-30T09:55:32.074+01:00So Jude doesn't think IRA killings were murder...So Jude doesn't think IRA killings were murders. Shame on you, Jude.<br /><br />As for murders carried out by "state forces", anyone guilty of such is also disqualified.<br /><br />But most killings by the security forces, which were relatively few in number, wouldn't have been murder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com