tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post2033421862323193411..comments2023-11-03T08:40:03.424+00:00Comments on Jude Collins: Learning Irish: talk about pointlessJude Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-38244397508602619742013-04-01T01:10:40.880+01:002013-04-01T01:10:40.880+01:00Níor chuala mé Gerry Adams ag caint i nGaeilge, ag...Níor chuala mé Gerry Adams ag caint i nGaeilge, agus dá gcloisinn ní ag tabhairt bhreithiúnais uirthi a bheinn. <br />Is Gaillimheach mise a rugadh agus a tógadh le Gaeilge, ach is mó go mór mo mheas ar Ghaeilgeoirí Bhéal Feirste a bhfuil an cuimse oibre déanta acu chun an teanga a chur chun cinn nó ar go leor de mhuintir Chonamara--go mór mór an dream óg--a bhfuil a ndroim tugtha acu di.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-71152113079307288722013-03-29T13:41:48.984+00:002013-03-29T13:41:48.984+00:00Oops - 'an' should be 'can' - just...Oops - 'an' should be 'can' - just to avoid confusion...<br />Jude Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-8571888465037463642013-03-29T13:40:27.911+00:002013-03-29T13:40:27.911+00:00Anons 17:59 and 00:16 - Maybe you mix in more rat...Anons 17:59 and 00:16 - Maybe you mix in more rational circles than I do, but I an assure you that the Northern note in Gerry's Irish is indeed part of the criticism among a number of people south of the border. Mind you if it wasn't the accent they'd find something else. But I'm impressed by your ability, Anon 00:16, to extract 'sad, counterproductive (sic) and indulgent' out of my description of my experience. Maybe a little bit more logic in your conclusions next time?Jude Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-17241649541785362012013-03-29T00:16:47.300+00:002013-03-29T00:16:47.300+00:00Well said Seamus. Same with me, of all the critici...Well said Seamus. Same with me, of all the criticisms I've ever heard of Gerry's Irish (or lack of it), its 'Northernness' has never been one of them. Making little of anyone's attempt to speak Irish is sad and counterproductive to the language - and sadly it's not uncommon. Adding comments like "Especially if it's northern." as in the above is equally sad, counterproductive and indulgent. The problems articulated with the language as discussed in the article are there north, south, east and west. I've experienced snobbery in Galway when speaking Irish and I'm from Tipp. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-56796337777505763282013-03-23T17:59:50.650+00:002013-03-23T17:59:50.650+00:00Of all the criticisms I've ever heard of Gerry...Of all the criticisms I've ever heard of Gerry's Irish (or lack of it), its 'Northernness' has never been one of them.Séamusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-61024542218015785912013-03-22T21:13:04.061+00:002013-03-22T21:13:04.061+00:00Jude
"..if someone can’t speak glittering, gr...Jude<br />"..if someone can’t speak glittering, graceful Irish they shouldn’t speak it at all. Which is a bone-headed thing to say in any language."<br />I agree. A lot of people thought it hilarious to highlight how some of our natives pronounce 'flags' as 'flegs'. I'm so glad you don't hold with that sort of puerile mockery.giordanobrunonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-35095460225281709632013-03-22T16:35:58.337+00:002013-03-22T16:35:58.337+00:00Jude a chara, tá sé iontach tábhachtach go mbainea...Jude a chara, tá sé iontach tábhachtach go mbaineann achan daoine úsáid as aon Gaeilge atá acú fiú mura bhfuil ann ach "go raibh maith agat, Dia duit no slán". Úsáidim an cúpla focal bunúsach seo le siopadóirí, fir an tí srl agus cé go bhfuil mé comhair a bheith cinnte nach bhfuil aon Gaeilge acu tuigeann siad cád é tá i gceist agam. Cá mhéid uair ar chuala tú "ola" sular thuig tú gur fáiltiú a bhí ann. Tá sé tábhactach fosta go gcluineann daoine atá go mór in eadan na Gaeilge í in úsáid ar bhonn laethúil. Má táimid i ndáiríre faoi athbheochán na Gaeilge caithfidh muid í a labhairt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-22297864677924274842013-03-22T16:05:21.946+00:002013-03-22T16:05:21.946+00:00I studied Irish for 6 years at times under the exp...I studied Irish for 6 years at times under the expert tutelage of esteemed Professor McGeown at the local college but never achieved the fluency of a native speaker demonstrated daily with a natural ease by my neighbours originally from the Bloodyforeland and Gweedore.There is a musicality and beauty with Irish when spoken by people who grew up with it as their first language and my Irish teachers could also tell which part of Donegal you came from by the way you spoke Irish as the "accent" subtly changed from parish to parish.It's amazing how some people think Dublin is the centre of the universe and feel smug enough to criticize everything regional including accents,usually they are in for a shock when they leave for other English speaking parts of the planet and realise how their thick accents are barely understood and asked to slow down,it's all relative ans some people need to get out of their comfort zone more often ,it's mind broadening and humbling at the same time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5965333981619997978.post-74464085658413776212013-03-22T15:58:52.716+00:002013-03-22T15:58:52.716+00:00Few would disagree that Irish needs to be fostered...Few would disagree that Irish needs to be fostered and initiatives such as Liofa are to be welcomed.I had assumed that Gerry Adams had the gold Fainne which ,to my understanding denotes an advanced fluency in the language.Maybe I've got that wrong.By the way,what has happened to the proposed Irish Language Act which was always one of the planks of Sinn Fein manifestos at election times?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com